Ave Senun'Nai, morituri te salutant
Ave Senun'Nai, morituri te salutant
@Support I have rearranged the scene. Attention, the following text has become a bit longer.
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How could the gods allow this to happen! Yesterday, only one day ago, he, Roa'Ra, the Talka Kekshaar, ruler of the Golden Danara, protégé and representative of the gods in this plane, was about to fulfil the glorious destiny of his people. To bring the gods back to the human plane. Then his people, under the personal golden leadership of Ra, would rule all among the gods of heaven.
And today. One day later. Defeated. No, not defeated, but ANNIHILATED. The Imperial Jaffa and their allies, all Shol'va, had swept away the Golden Fleet on a scale and with a speed that was unimaginable. In just two hours, the entire Golden Fleet, which he himself had commanded and led here in defence of the home planet, had been completely defeated. By this time, the colonies had long since renounced the League. The secessions had already begun at the beginning of the battle for Danara.
But worst of all! The Ya Tada and the Ya Armeka, the most loyal of the elite units of the Golden Army, had apparently led the uprisings! At least this is what the victorious commander and ruler of the imperial Jaffa, Senun'Nai Isis VII, claimed.
Furthermore, the Ya Armeka, whose task it was to protect the secrets of the gods and the Golden League, are said to have betrayed the secret of the experiments to create the ultimate warriors, the Katasha, to the Shol'va.
And yet, that at least had to be the truth. It could only have been the Ya Armeka. Everyone else who knew about the secret had always stayed on Danara or the secret research planet. And communication with the other worlds from here was only possible with his personal permission.
So it seemed that the rest of what the Supreme System Lord had explained to him, full of humility but not without sarcasm, was also true. His people had turned away from their divine destiny to become equals among the Shol'va peoples.
The gods themselves must have turned against Danara.
And now. Now there was only one thing left for him, Roa'Ra, to do. He was to sign the complete and unconditional surrender of the Golden League of Danara on board the imperial yacht "Herer'em I". And thereby endorse the League's occupations.
After that. After that, the Jaffa Imperials had told him, the former members of Danara's leadership would stand trial before the Emmekata Artaemka Met (Intergalactic Criminal Court).
MEANINGLESS. Let them do what they wanted. The gods had turned their backs on him and Danara. Everything else had become meaningless.
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As Pythia once said to Croesus, king of the Lydians: "If you cross the Halys, you will destroy a mighty empire". This is exactly what she could have said to Roa'Ra, the Talka Cookie Hair, ruler of the Golden Danara.
The Golden League of Danara of the year 370 AJR/2375 AD is a relatively young interstellar power located in one of the many border sectors between the established great powers. The sector cluster in which Danara lies is surrounded by the territories of the Free Jaffa Empire, the Lucian Alliance and the Motahed Hokumat Majabooto. The FJE has the longest border with this area.
The Golden League is a small power, comprising only 8 colonies and a few small outposts in as many systems. Over the last 100 years, the insignificance of its sector to the great powers has allowed it to rise to become the leading power in its sector.
Danara itself was a former slave world of the System Lord Ra, then known as Kaduar. Ra had chosen this world as the one to which he could retreat in the event of a coup by the other System Lords against his leadership. This explains why Danara/Kaduar is located in the officially unexplored areas of the Milky Way "northwest" of the Goa'uld Empire, near the planets protected by the Asgard. This is one of the last areas where the Goa'uld could have searched for Ra.
Because of their history, the inhabitants of Danara are fanatical followers of the Goa'uld, true believers of the old gods. And to honor the gods, the inhabitants of Danara Yata wanted to initiate Yata Jafka Met, the Great Judgment at the end of the human era. To this end, they not only created a space fleet of a thousand warships. Above all, the Katasha, the ultimate warrior, was to serve this purpose. Genetically modified super soldiers. For the genetic experiments, the League used DNA from the Eriwraith, the descendants of the Wraith, who had allied themselves with the Atlantis expedition of Earth and had lost the need to feed on humans through genetic modification. The humans of Danara had misinterpreted this genetic modification as the creation of super-soldiers, not realizing that the Wraith's superior physiology to humans already existed without this genetic modification.
At the turn of the year 370/371, on Yajaf'meta Arms 370 AJR (23.12.2375 AD), there was a meeting between Isis VII, Supreme System Lord of the Free Jaffa Empire, and Roa'Ra, the Talka Kekshaar of the Golden League of Danara, on board the Imperial yacht, the "Herer'em I", which was escorted by four Imperial Ha'tak. Also on board were representatives of the other four major powers - Jaffa Nation, Intergalactic Union, Convenant and Lucian Alliance. As well as scientific experts from the Union intelligence agency OII, who had access to the secret data of the SGC Atlantis expedition from the 20th century, which showed how the Atlantis expedition genetically modified the Wraith.
The League has been accused of conducting experiments that could lead to the creation of "savage Wriath".
"Savage Wraith" are a special form of the old Wraith. They have abilities like the Wraith, sometimes even abilities unknown to the Wraith, like climbing vertical, smooth surfaces. However, they do not have the intellect of the Wraith, but are exclusively instinct-driven. (see John Sheppard in the episode "Conversion"). This special form of the old Wraith developed almost exclusively through genetic experiments with Wraith DNA. Therefore, since the pacification of the Wraith and their evolution into the Eriwraith, any form of genetic experimentation with their Wraith-DNA was prohibited by the Intergalactic Criminal Law.
Roa'Ra, Talka Kekshaar of the Golden League and ruler of Danara should explain rumours about extremely dangerous experiments of the League.
Roa'Ra himself had led the representatives of the Jaffa Empire and the other great powers to the disputed facilities. With all the charm at his disposal, he ensnared these people, whom he inwardly considered to be abominations, shol'va to the gods. Secretly, he had given orders to destroy all evidence on the spot. All his friendliness therefore only served to buy time for the elite units of Ya Tada and Ya Armeka who were to destroy all the evidence.
However, he had completely misjudged the situation. It was not rumors that led the Great Powers to the League's homeworld, but clear evidence. The accusations and the measures envisaged for such a violation of the most important law of intergalactic criminal law had such extreme consequences that the governments of the Great Powers wanted to give the Golden League a chance to explain itself and voluntarily submit to the rules of the intergalactic criminal code. Ironically, this very evidence against the League had been delivered to the Great Powers by the very two elite units that were now ordered by their master, Roa'Ra, to destroy the evidence on the spot.
But the League refused to stop the experiments and hand over all those responsible to the Intergalactic Criminal Court. And so, after agreement between the DeSCa and the Lucian Alliance, as the largest non-DeSCa power, Katada Arshataka (Goa'uld, roughly translated: Damnatio Memoriae, damnation of memory) was pronounced on Danara under "1st article of the Intergalactic Criminal Code: for planned crimes against the Galaxy and preparation for genocide".
The Katada Arshataka obliges all interstellar nations that recognise the Intergalactic Criminal Law to participate in punitive measures against the League, in this, the worst case, military operations. That is, the occupation of Danara. 655 star nations from all over the Milky Way, plus the United Tribes of Kobol, declared their participation in the military operation. Of course, due to the vast distances in the galaxy and the little time available, only a few star nations could actually send ships and troops. In the end, only ships from the Jaffa Empire, the Lucian Alliance, the Motahed Hokumat and the IUSP were involved in the operation. The nearest fleet base of the Jaffa Nation was too far away. But, with the Chappa'ai on board the imperial Jaffa flagship "Herer'em I", the Jaffa nation had embarked a complete Sha, 14000 highly trained, equipped Jaffa experienced in building combat, for ground combat.
The "result" of this meeting of the year-end 370 AJR (2375),can be seen in this image: on Tame Taruka 371 AJR (5.01.2376 AD), two weeks after the failed talks, Roa'Ra had to sign the unconditional surrender of the Golden League of Danara on board the "Herer'em I", the Imperial flagship. The Golden Fleet, the pride of Danara comprising 1000 warships, had been destroyed in less than two hours by the "Herer'erm I" and its escort. The superiority of the five Imperial ships over the Golden Fleet was so great that Isis VII had issued strict orders to her guards to use only non-lethal energy on their own weapons. She did not want to increase the humiliation of having to fight such an inferior opponent by inflicting a bloodbath on Danara's fighters. Despite everything, Danara suffered almost no casualties. Although their ships fell in seconds.
In this picture you can now see the ultimate meeting of the two flagships of the Empire and the League.
The conditions of surrender include:
"Extradite to the Intergalactic Criminal Court all politicians, military personnel and scientists involved and responsible for the experiments with Wriath DNA.
As well as all data, documents, etc,.
All relevant facilities, equipment, data, etc. in the Golden League are to be destroyed, under the supervision of the SGC.
The planet Danara is placed under the control of Stargate Command, as the peacekeeping unit of DeSCa, for at least 25 years.
All major measures, political and military, are reviewed and monitored by the SGC.
In particular, the SGC will ensure that no more experiments with Wriath DNA are possible.
Danara is committed to extensive reforms, which are also monitored by the SGC.
The colonies are free to decide how and in what relationship they want to stand with Danara."
In the end, all colonies will decide against remaining in the Golden League, which means that the Golden League of Danara will effectively cease to exist.
Two colonies chose independence, the remaining six colonies joined one of the neighbouring civilisations. One colony became part of the Jaffa Empire, one became part of the Lucian Alliance, four became part of the Motahed Hokumate.
The planet on which the League's secret genetic experiments had taken place came into the care of the IUSP. The Union has the largest Eriwraith population and thus the most experience with this race, and also still has the original data that was used by Dr. Becket and Dr. Keller to "pacify" the Wraith. Therefore, the Union is considered best suited for this task. After building an adequate infrastructure, the people of this planet, who have been cruelly abused for the experiments, will decide their fate (they will apply for full membership in the IUSP).
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How could the gods allow this to happen! Yesterday, only one day ago, he, Roa'Ra, the Talka Kekshaar, ruler of the Golden Danara, protégé and representative of the gods in this plane, was about to fulfil the glorious destiny of his people. To bring the gods back to the human plane. Then his people, under the personal golden leadership of Ra, would rule all among the gods of heaven.
And today. One day later. Defeated. No, not defeated, but ANNIHILATED. The Imperial Jaffa and their allies, all Shol'va, had swept away the Golden Fleet on a scale and with a speed that was unimaginable. In just two hours, the entire Golden Fleet, which he himself had commanded and led here in defence of the home planet, had been completely defeated. By this time, the colonies had long since renounced the League. The secessions had already begun at the beginning of the battle for Danara.
But worst of all! The Ya Tada and the Ya Armeka, the most loyal of the elite units of the Golden Army, had apparently led the uprisings! At least this is what the victorious commander and ruler of the imperial Jaffa, Senun'Nai Isis VII, claimed.
Furthermore, the Ya Armeka, whose task it was to protect the secrets of the gods and the Golden League, are said to have betrayed the secret of the experiments to create the ultimate warriors, the Katasha, to the Shol'va.
And yet, that at least had to be the truth. It could only have been the Ya Armeka. Everyone else who knew about the secret had always stayed on Danara or the secret research planet. And communication with the other worlds from here was only possible with his personal permission.
So it seemed that the rest of what the Supreme System Lord had explained to him, full of humility but not without sarcasm, was also true. His people had turned away from their divine destiny to become equals among the Shol'va peoples.
The gods themselves must have turned against Danara.
And now. Now there was only one thing left for him, Roa'Ra, to do. He was to sign the complete and unconditional surrender of the Golden League of Danara on board the imperial yacht "Herer'em I". And thereby endorse the League's occupations.
After that. After that, the Jaffa Imperials had told him, the former members of Danara's leadership would stand trial before the Emmekata Artaemka Met (Intergalactic Criminal Court).
MEANINGLESS. Let them do what they wanted. The gods had turned their backs on him and Danara. Everything else had become meaningless.
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As Pythia once said to Croesus, king of the Lydians: "If you cross the Halys, you will destroy a mighty empire". This is exactly what she could have said to Roa'Ra, the Talka Cookie Hair, ruler of the Golden Danara.
The Golden League of Danara of the year 370 AJR/2375 AD is a relatively young interstellar power located in one of the many border sectors between the established great powers. The sector cluster in which Danara lies is surrounded by the territories of the Free Jaffa Empire, the Lucian Alliance and the Motahed Hokumat Majabooto. The FJE has the longest border with this area.
The Golden League is a small power, comprising only 8 colonies and a few small outposts in as many systems. Over the last 100 years, the insignificance of its sector to the great powers has allowed it to rise to become the leading power in its sector.
Danara itself was a former slave world of the System Lord Ra, then known as Kaduar. Ra had chosen this world as the one to which he could retreat in the event of a coup by the other System Lords against his leadership. This explains why Danara/Kaduar is located in the officially unexplored areas of the Milky Way "northwest" of the Goa'uld Empire, near the planets protected by the Asgard. This is one of the last areas where the Goa'uld could have searched for Ra.
Because of their history, the inhabitants of Danara are fanatical followers of the Goa'uld, true believers of the old gods. And to honor the gods, the inhabitants of Danara Yata wanted to initiate Yata Jafka Met, the Great Judgment at the end of the human era. To this end, they not only created a space fleet of a thousand warships. Above all, the Katasha, the ultimate warrior, was to serve this purpose. Genetically modified super soldiers. For the genetic experiments, the League used DNA from the Eriwraith, the descendants of the Wraith, who had allied themselves with the Atlantis expedition of Earth and had lost the need to feed on humans through genetic modification. The humans of Danara had misinterpreted this genetic modification as the creation of super-soldiers, not realizing that the Wraith's superior physiology to humans already existed without this genetic modification.
At the turn of the year 370/371, on Yajaf'meta Arms 370 AJR (23.12.2375 AD), there was a meeting between Isis VII, Supreme System Lord of the Free Jaffa Empire, and Roa'Ra, the Talka Kekshaar of the Golden League of Danara, on board the Imperial yacht, the "Herer'em I", which was escorted by four Imperial Ha'tak. Also on board were representatives of the other four major powers - Jaffa Nation, Intergalactic Union, Convenant and Lucian Alliance. As well as scientific experts from the Union intelligence agency OII, who had access to the secret data of the SGC Atlantis expedition from the 20th century, which showed how the Atlantis expedition genetically modified the Wraith.
The League has been accused of conducting experiments that could lead to the creation of "savage Wriath".
"Savage Wraith" are a special form of the old Wraith. They have abilities like the Wraith, sometimes even abilities unknown to the Wraith, like climbing vertical, smooth surfaces. However, they do not have the intellect of the Wraith, but are exclusively instinct-driven. (see John Sheppard in the episode "Conversion"). This special form of the old Wraith developed almost exclusively through genetic experiments with Wraith DNA. Therefore, since the pacification of the Wraith and their evolution into the Eriwraith, any form of genetic experimentation with their Wraith-DNA was prohibited by the Intergalactic Criminal Law.
Roa'Ra, Talka Kekshaar of the Golden League and ruler of Danara should explain rumours about extremely dangerous experiments of the League.
Roa'Ra himself had led the representatives of the Jaffa Empire and the other great powers to the disputed facilities. With all the charm at his disposal, he ensnared these people, whom he inwardly considered to be abominations, shol'va to the gods. Secretly, he had given orders to destroy all evidence on the spot. All his friendliness therefore only served to buy time for the elite units of Ya Tada and Ya Armeka who were to destroy all the evidence.
However, he had completely misjudged the situation. It was not rumors that led the Great Powers to the League's homeworld, but clear evidence. The accusations and the measures envisaged for such a violation of the most important law of intergalactic criminal law had such extreme consequences that the governments of the Great Powers wanted to give the Golden League a chance to explain itself and voluntarily submit to the rules of the intergalactic criminal code. Ironically, this very evidence against the League had been delivered to the Great Powers by the very two elite units that were now ordered by their master, Roa'Ra, to destroy the evidence on the spot.
But the League refused to stop the experiments and hand over all those responsible to the Intergalactic Criminal Court. And so, after agreement between the DeSCa and the Lucian Alliance, as the largest non-DeSCa power, Katada Arshataka (Goa'uld, roughly translated: Damnatio Memoriae, damnation of memory) was pronounced on Danara under "1st article of the Intergalactic Criminal Code: for planned crimes against the Galaxy and preparation for genocide".
The Katada Arshataka obliges all interstellar nations that recognise the Intergalactic Criminal Law to participate in punitive measures against the League, in this, the worst case, military operations. That is, the occupation of Danara. 655 star nations from all over the Milky Way, plus the United Tribes of Kobol, declared their participation in the military operation. Of course, due to the vast distances in the galaxy and the little time available, only a few star nations could actually send ships and troops. In the end, only ships from the Jaffa Empire, the Lucian Alliance, the Motahed Hokumat and the IUSP were involved in the operation. The nearest fleet base of the Jaffa Nation was too far away. But, with the Chappa'ai on board the imperial Jaffa flagship "Herer'em I", the Jaffa nation had embarked a complete Sha, 14000 highly trained, equipped Jaffa experienced in building combat, for ground combat.
The "result" of this meeting of the year-end 370 AJR (2375),can be seen in this image: on Tame Taruka 371 AJR (5.01.2376 AD), two weeks after the failed talks, Roa'Ra had to sign the unconditional surrender of the Golden League of Danara on board the "Herer'em I", the Imperial flagship. The Golden Fleet, the pride of Danara comprising 1000 warships, had been destroyed in less than two hours by the "Herer'erm I" and its escort. The superiority of the five Imperial ships over the Golden Fleet was so great that Isis VII had issued strict orders to her guards to use only non-lethal energy on their own weapons. She did not want to increase the humiliation of having to fight such an inferior opponent by inflicting a bloodbath on Danara's fighters. Despite everything, Danara suffered almost no casualties. Although their ships fell in seconds.
In this picture you can now see the ultimate meeting of the two flagships of the Empire and the League.
The conditions of surrender include:
"Extradite to the Intergalactic Criminal Court all politicians, military personnel and scientists involved and responsible for the experiments with Wriath DNA.
As well as all data, documents, etc,.
All relevant facilities, equipment, data, etc. in the Golden League are to be destroyed, under the supervision of the SGC.
The planet Danara is placed under the control of Stargate Command, as the peacekeeping unit of DeSCa, for at least 25 years.
All major measures, political and military, are reviewed and monitored by the SGC.
In particular, the SGC will ensure that no more experiments with Wriath DNA are possible.
Danara is committed to extensive reforms, which are also monitored by the SGC.
The colonies are free to decide how and in what relationship they want to stand with Danara."
In the end, all colonies will decide against remaining in the Golden League, which means that the Golden League of Danara will effectively cease to exist.
Two colonies chose independence, the remaining six colonies joined one of the neighbouring civilisations. One colony became part of the Jaffa Empire, one became part of the Lucian Alliance, four became part of the Motahed Hokumate.
The planet on which the League's secret genetic experiments had taken place came into the care of the IUSP. The Union has the largest Eriwraith population and thus the most experience with this race, and also still has the original data that was used by Dr. Becket and Dr. Keller to "pacify" the Wraith. Therefore, the Union is considered best suited for this task. After building an adequate infrastructure, the people of this planet, who have been cruelly abused for the experiments, will decide their fate (they will apply for full membership in the IUSP).
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the render has a powerful feel to it, seems like something is about to happen! and the story is long but well worth the read Question, what drove the Ya Tada and Ya Armeka to betray Roa'Ra and the Golden League?
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Many thanks Micheal. I create a particularly complex, difficult scene for every Christmas. A scene in which I go as far as I can with my skills at the time with composition, texture adjustment, i.e. with the rendering.Support wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 3:15 pm the render has a powerful feel to it, seems like something is about to happen! and the story is long but well worth the read Question, what drove the Ya Tada and Ya Armeka to betray Roa'Ra and the Golden League?
This scene was originally part of a triology that I posted at Christmas 2021/New Year 2022.
I have to admit, I had to read the story again myself to answer your question. I simply copied the text above from the old post.
Both units were elite units of the army. The Ya Tada (translated: The Iron Ones) were practically the secret police, responsible for the internal security of the state, suppressing the opposition, fighting corruption, etc. The Ya Armeka (translated: The Eternal Ones) were the secret service, responsible for the procurement of information and technologies as well as for securing their own information/technologies and official and secret research facilities.
Due to their duties, both elite units frequently came into contact with outsiders. The Ya Tada mainly with traders, but also with foreign delegations. The Ya Armeka, in turn, operated directly in the territories of the major powers, so that their agents had to have knowledge that was common among the foreign powers but was considered corrupt and forbidden in the League simply for their cover. And both elite units also came into contact with world views and ideas from outside the League. Both units therefore turned away from the League's extremist ideology relatively early on.
The Ya Tada were already an active part of the opposition in the colonies in the decades before the fall of the regime. They carried out their task of monitoring local officials and fighting corruption and embezzlement with great efficiency to protect the people. However, the persecution of dissidents declined sharply. Officially, this was because the Ya Tada was so successful that there was no longer any opposition or dissenters. In reality, however, the Ya Tada itself had become the leading opposition group in the last 2-3 years of the regime and was able to unite all other groups behind it.
For its part, the Ya Armeka had been informing the major powers about what was going on in the League for years, especially the Jaffa Empire. It could even be said that in recent years the secret service consisted solely of double agents from the secret service of the Jaffa Empire.
The fact that the major powers only found out about the genetic experiments relatively late was due to the fact that the government did not trust even its most "loyal" enforcers in this regard.
In the end, however, the government had to deploy the Ya Armeka to protect the experiments. They in turn immediately informed the Jaffa Empire and provided the final proof, which ultimately led to the occupation of Danara and the fall of the Talka Kekshaar regime. The Ya Tada, in turn, ensured that no fighting broke out between those loyal to the government and the opposition in the colonies when the central government was overthrown. Not that there were really many loyalists in the colonies.
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@Okwa I don't recall you posting this story, in any case, I Love your stories
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Many ThanksSupport wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 11:59 am @Okwa I don't recall you posting this story, in any case, I Love your stories
Oh, not here in the forum. I wasn't using Raylectron back then either, I was using Twilight v2.
I've been posting on DeviantArt for 8 years. So, the original post is from DA.
And have decided to recreate old Twilight and Kerkythea rendering with Raylectron in the next few weeks, if the scenes are worth it.
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@Okwa That explains it and it would be very interesting to see these old renders too and compare them with Raylectron see if there is anything Raylectron could do better.
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If this is your wish! This is the original scene(Background from DeviantArt-User Euderion):Support wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 4:10 pm @Okwa That explains it and it would be very interesting to see these old renders too and compare them with Raylectron see if there is anything Raylectron could do better.
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@Okwa this render doesn't look like it's in space, totally the wrong lighting, in my opinion.
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First or second image?Mike wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:03 am @Okwa this render doesn't look like it's in space, totally the wrong lighting, in my opinion.
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You're absolutely right about this image. I have to say that this image is old, I had less experience. And I always found it difficult to adjust the light setting for Twilight. Twilight was never my favorite redering program. I came from Kerkythea, but that was unstable as anything. Catastrophic. And there was no other free rendering program back then. So I was forced to use Twilight.
But now I have the heaven on earth called Ralyectron. That's why I'm planning to re-render all the old scenes, especially from my Twilight days.
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@Okwa I have to agree with Mike, it doesn't look like it's in space, the lighting is all over as if there is a huge light above. But as you said, it's old and lack of experience. In any case, your new renders are way better now that you are experienced.
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And a better rendering programm.Support wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 5:30 pm @Okwa I have to agree with Mike, it doesn't look like it's in space, the lighting is all over as if there is a huge light above. But as you said, it's old and lack of experience. In any case, your new renders are way better now that you are experienced.
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@Okwa I really like the original compared to the last one from another render. The nebula and how it light the ships is just right. I would love to see a pass-bye style of it if you can, it's got that look and feel I can't explain!
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@Alienizer Many Thanks. It's a nice feeling when you look at your old work to realize that, despite everything, you have made progress in your rendering skills. If you had told me 10 years ago that I could create a image like the Raylectron version of this scene. I would have said "NEVER"!
"pass-bye style", you mean a fly-by?
"pass-bye style", you mean a fly-by?
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yes, a fly-by, but going really slow in a big and intimidating view, you know?Okwa wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:24 am @Alienizer Many Thanks. It's a nice feeling when you look at your old work to realize that, despite everything, you have made progress in your rendering skills. If you had told me 10 years ago that I could create a image like the Raylectron version of this scene. I would have said "NEVER"!
"pass-bye style", you mean a fly-by?
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Mmmh, ok, I'll give it a try.Alienizer wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 5:49 pmyes, a fly-by, but going really slow in a big and intimidating view, you know?Okwa wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:24 am @Alienizer Many Thanks. It's a nice feeling when you look at your old work to realize that, despite everything, you have made progress in your rendering skills. If you had told me 10 years ago that I could create a image like the Raylectron version of this scene. I would have said "NEVER"!
"pass-bye style", you mean a fly-by?
Well, then I'll give Michael a treat and reactivate Raylectron's animation function.
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I meant a photo of the fly-by, but if you can make an animation, that's even betterOkwa wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 2:09 am Mmmh, ok, I'll give it a try.
Well, then I'll give Michael a treat and reactivate Raylectron's animation function.
"reactivate Raylectron's animation function", what do you mean??
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I haven't created an animation in over a year. That's what I mean. I mainly post on DeviantArt. But you need a membership to upload videos to DA. And because of the 2-3 videos a year I would create, the membership is too expensive for me. That's why I can't remember exactly how it worked. It took me all afternoon yesterday to remember the commands. The preview actually looks quite good, in a very simple way.Alienizer wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 7:02 pmI meant a photo of the fly-by, but if you can make an animation, that's even betterOkwa wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 2:09 am Mmmh, ok, I'll give it a try.
Well, then I'll give Michael a treat and reactivate Raylectron's animation function.
"reactivate Raylectron's animation function", what do you mean??
But the rendering time, I think it's gotten longer with the new Raylectron version. I have the feeling that as much faster as the rendering of images has become, the rendering of animations now takes much longer. So I'll probably go along with your suggestion to just create a photo of a fly-by.
P.S. You know that you can create animations with Raylectron, right?
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@Alienizer @Support I have to admit, I'm quite uninspired as to how a "photo" of a fly-by should be staged. Or better said, can be staged. But never mind. Raylectron is so fast that you can try out problems. What do you think of this result? What could I do better? I really need help here.
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Re: Ave Senun'Nai, morituri te salutant
It looks really good Chris, but I'm no expert either and I think Bryan @BKilburn can help on that one, he's got the knowledge and experience.Okwa wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:43 am @Alienizer @Support I have to admit, I'm quite uninspired as to how a "photo" of a fly-by should be staged. Or better said, can be staged. But never mind. Raylectron is so fast that you can try out problems. What do you think of this result? What could I do better? I really need help here.
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Re: Ave Senun'Nai, morituri te salutant
@Support Many thanks, Micheal. Also for the tip.
@BKilburn What do you think could be improved in the image? I had to realize that I really have no idea how to stage a fly-by as a photo.
@BKilburn What do you think could be improved in the image? I had to realize that I really have no idea how to stage a fly-by as a photo.
Re: Ave Senun'Nai, morituri te salutant
Good question.Okwa wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:09 am @Support Many thanks, Micheal. Also for the tip.
@BKilburn What do you think could be improved in the image? I had to realize that I really have no idea how to stage a fly-by as a photo.
Some of your ships are symmetrical, so one cannot tell which direction they are moving. Move them closer to the ships that have the obvious fore and aft.
Also, in open space, there is no point of reference for direction. A small planet nearby should help.
And third, a more angular shot would help. Looking up at something is more dramatic than looking side on or from above. (valleys and skylines are an exception)
Fourth, the background is too busy and detracts and distracts from the subjects. i.e. the spaceships. I would cut the number of stars in half.
Play around with those ideas and see what you get. Everyone's eye is a little different. Looking forward to the results!
Re: Ave Senun'Nai, morituri te salutant
@BKilburn Many thanks for you help. To summarize your tips, would you say that the best way to achieve the desired result is to compose this scene in a similar way to what I did with the "United World Organization" image? Perhaps only fewer stars.
Re: Ave Senun'Nai, morituri te salutant
Good example! Yes.Okwa wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:56 am @BKilburn Many thanks for you help. To summarize your tips, would you say that the best way to achieve the desired result is to compose this scene in a similar way to what I did with the "United World Organization" image? Perhaps only fewer stars.