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Getting the shine on-Interior scenes

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:00 pm
by GateGirl86
I'm having trouble creating a gloss effect on interiors. Namely walls and floors etc. For example walls painted in enamel will give a low shine. What I am getting is a grainy effect; yet with exterior scenes I don't have that issue.
DD-100 Endurance crew cafeteria-wall.png
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Re: Getting the shine on-Interior scenes

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:13 pm
by Support
That's typical for interiors like corner areas with no lights in the back to reflect from the shine. Like a shiny floor, if you look at it against a wall, there is no shine, but looking at it against a patio door for example, you can clearly see the shine. It all depends on the angle of view and what it's reflecting. You may want to reduce the diffuse and increase the shine (not the reflection) to have more shine, but again, what will it shine? the other walls which have no emitting surfaces, no contrast of their own, so the shine is still present but can't tell. Outdoor is different, a lot of bright areas to shine from.

Re: Getting the shine on-Interior scenes

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:16 pm
by GateGirl86
I have the lights in the ceiling. Quite a few of them in fact covering the entire large area (its a crew mess on board a ship). What though is causing the 'graininess' you can see on the walls? That would normally be where you'd see a gloss/shine effect.

Re: Getting the shine on-Interior scenes

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:24 pm
by Support
Think of shine as reflection but much less obvious, there is nothing to reflect because of the angle of view it can't really reflect the ceiling lights because of the angle of view. The grains are probably from the Diffuse setting, set it to zero and see what it actually reflects from the shine. What are the settings you use for the walls?

Re: Getting the shine on-Interior scenes

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:16 pm
by GateGirl86
Support wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:24 pm Think of shine as reflection but much less obvious, there is nothing to reflect because of the angle of view it can't really reflect the ceiling lights because of the angle of view. The grains are probably from the Diffuse setting, set it to zero and see what it actually reflects from the shine. What are the settings you use for the walls?
I'll give that a try. I'm not entirely sure what settings I used, I think though I just used the 'shiny' setting.

Re: Getting the shine on-Interior scenes

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:19 pm
by Support
If you used the shiny setting, then it only uses the Sine and Diffuse.

Re: Getting the shine on-Interior scenes

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:53 am
by GateGirl86
I did have some success :D
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Re: Getting the shine on-Interior scenes

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:42 pm
by Support
It's looking really nice. The shines can't be shown too well because lights are all over, makes it more ambient. What are your illumination settings?

Re: Getting the shine on-Interior scenes

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:52 pm
by GateGirl86
Thank you. :D
Emitting face: both

Smooth Spread

Intensity Power: 85 (overhead) 35 (wall lights)

both 180 degrees

Re: Getting the shine on-Interior scenes

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 11:11 am
by Support
What I meant is the Illumination menu of the model, these settings.

As for the lights, why do you have them illuminate on both sides? Is that how they would be in real life?

Re: Getting the shine on-Interior scenes

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:05 pm
by GateGirl86
Would you be able to show me with a screen cap? I'm sort of a little out of it lately....27 weeks pregnant lol

It wasn't working with the single setting, I was just experimenting I guess.

Re: Getting the shine on-Interior scenes

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:41 pm
by Support
Here it is...

Re: Getting the shine on-Interior scenes

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:55 pm
by GateGirl86
I'll check that on my next render. But I think all boxes were ticked except clouds.

Re: Getting the shine on-Interior scenes

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:59 pm
by Support
For this interior rendering, Artificial Lights should be the only one checked, beside Direct Illumination, Grain Free and Real Shadows.

Re: Getting the shine on-Interior scenes

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:20 pm
by GateGirl86
I will remember that. :mrgreen: :ugeek: