Michael, what have you done?

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Michael, what have you done?

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I was about to create a scene with build 98 when the message for build 100 came up, but I was too lazy to download the new version first. Then I got curious and rendered the same scene again with build 100. Micheal, how? The first image is rendered with Build 98. The second with Build 100. What a difference! :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited:

I emphasize, I have changed nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. It's all Michael's fault. :lol:

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Re: Michael, what have you done?

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Now my curiosity has really gotten the better of me. I wanted to render all the scenes that I still have saved on the hard disk with the new build. I noticed that I can no longer open some of them. Raylectron then complains “Access violation”. I think, but I'm not sure, that the .rof files that I can't open are the ones that I created before Build 98. The ones I could open were definitely created with Build 98.

Anyway, here are the scenes I was still able to open. I have not made any changes to the settings of any scene. I rendered them as they were saved. And as I had already posted them here in the forum. :D
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Re: Michael, what have you done?

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@Okwa OH NO :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

I didn't change anything about loading, it has to be a render bug that gives you that access violation error. I opened a bunch of my older models without errors. Can you share with me that model you get that error and the black spots? just the rog, cfg and texture folder will do. :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
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Support wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:28 am @Okwa OH NO :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

I didn't change anything about loading, it has to be a render bug that gives you that access violation error. I opened a bunch of my older models without errors. Can you share with me that model you get that error and the black spots? just the rog, cfg and texture folder will do. :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
No problem. But you've once again outdone yourself with the rest. The light and shadows are so cool now. I've just created another image. :salute :excited:

Come to think of it, all the files I can't open are created with the latest beta version of Raylectron. I can open all the files I created with the regular build afterwards. Maybe that's the reason? :D
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Okwa wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:45 am No problem. But you've once again outdone yourself with the rest. The light and shadows are so cool now. I've just created another image. :salute :excited:
That's what I thought too!
Okwa wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:45 am Come to think of it, all the files I can't open are created with the latest beta version of Raylectron. I can open all the files I created with the regular build afterwards. Maybe that's the reason? :D
It wouldn't make any difference which build you use to open them as I didn't change the save/load process at all. The only thing I can think of is a number conversion from the CFG file that is not compatible with the new change but I can't think od which! Can you send me just a CFG file that I can load so I can see what's causing the error?
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@Okwa aren't the shadows for this one too dark???
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Support wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:50 am
Okwa wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:45 am No problem. But you've once again outdone yourself with the rest. The light and shadows are so cool now. I've just created another image. :salute :excited:
That's what I thought too!
Okwa wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:45 am Come to think of it, all the files I can't open are created with the latest beta version of Raylectron. I can open all the files I created with the regular build afterwards. Maybe that's the reason? :D
It wouldn't make any difference which build you use to open them as I didn't change the save/load process at all. The only thing I can think of is a number conversion from the CFG file that is not compatible with the new change but I can't think od which! Can you send me just a CFG file that I can load so I can see what's causing the error?
Please. With the last picture I have uploaded a .zip with the whole file (.cfg, .rof, texture)
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Support wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:51 am @Okwa aren't the shadows for this one too dark???
In my opinion, no. I think it's better this way, considering how low I've set the sun. Also on the second image, which I think you see black spots there, but which are actually shadows of the mountains, I personally think the shadow is appropriate. Let's see what @BKilburn has to say, shall we?
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Okwa wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:57 am
Support wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:51 am @Okwa aren't the shadows for this one too dark???
In my opinion, no. I think it's better this way, considering how low I've set the sun. Also on the second image, which I think you see black spots there, but which are actually shadows of the mountains, I personally think the shadow is appropriate. Let's see what @BKilburn has to say, shall we?
I agree Chris. But what about these black spots in Erag-Class on survey 1b ? what are they?
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Okwa wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:54 am Please. With the last picture I have uploaded a .zip with the whole file (.cfg, .rof, texture)
I was able load that CFG without error but maybe it's because I didn't use the associated model for it. Where did you upload the zip?
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Support wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:59 am
Okwa wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:57 am
Support wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:51 am @Okwa aren't the shadows for this one too dark???
In my opinion, no. I think it's better this way, considering how low I've set the sun. Also on the second image, which I think you see black spots there, but which are actually shadows of the mountains, I personally think the shadow is appropriate. Let's see what @BKilburn has to say, shall we?
I agree Chris. But what about these black spots in Erag-Class on survey 1b ? what are they?
These are the shadows of the mountains. Although, they're actually just hills, but never mind. And at the top left of the image is a lake. Just compare this image with the one above and you'll see. Only the shadow is much darker now, nothing more.
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Support wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 12:00 pm
Okwa wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:54 am Please. With the last picture I have uploaded a .zip with the whole file (.cfg, .rof, texture)
I was able load that CFG without error but maybe it's because I didn't use the associated model for it. Where did you upload the zip?
It's easy, I'll upload it here too.
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Okwa wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 12:02 pm These are the shadows of the mountains. Although, they're actually just hills, but never mind. And at the top left of the image is a lake. Just compare this image with the one above and you'll see. Only the shadow is much darker now, nothing more.
ah, now I get it :salute
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@Support Oh, you mean you little black dots/strips? Those are the trees and their shadows. :oops: I'm sorry, I misunderstood.
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Okwa wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 12:03 pm It's easy, I'll upload it here too.
I just opened it and it loaded, no error with build 100.
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Okwa wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 12:05 pm @Support Oh, you mean you little black dots? Those are the trees and their shadows. :oops: I'm sorry, I misunderstood.
no no, that's not what I meant, I know those are trees, mean this one for example...
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Support wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 12:07 pm
Okwa wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 12:03 pm It's easy, I'll upload it here too.
I just opened it and it loaded, no error with build 100.
I have to correct myself. When I have Raylectron running and go to “Open file” in Raylectron. Then, and only then, do I get this error message! And I cannot open the file.
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Support wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 12:08 pm
Okwa wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 12:05 pm @Support Oh, you mean you little black dots? Those are the trees and their shadows. :oops: I'm sorry, I misunderstood.
no no, that's not what I meant, I know those are trees, mean this one for example...
Yes, that comes from the hill on the right in your detail. That is its shadow.
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Okwa wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 12:11 pm
Support wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 12:07 pm
Okwa wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 12:03 pm It's easy, I'll upload it here too.
I just opened it and it loaded, no error with build 100.
I have to correct myself. When I have Raylectron running and go to “Open file” in Raylectron. Then, and only then, do I get this error message! And I cannot open the file.
oh! I just tried it, while it's rendering too, I click Open in the menu, it ask if I'm sure... click Yes and it shows me a list of file, I open one and it comes up normally.
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Okwa wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 12:12 pm
Support wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 12:08 pm
Okwa wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 12:05 pm @Support Oh, you mean you little black dots? Those are the trees and their shadows. :oops: I'm sorry, I misunderstood.
no no, that's not what I meant, I know those are trees, mean this one for example...
Yes, that comes from the hill on the right in your detail. That is its shadow.
ah, got it :salute
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@Support Don't be surprised that I won't be in touch today. I have to go to the babysitting service. :salute :lol:
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Okwa wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 12:03 pm
Support wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 12:00 pm
Okwa wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:54 am Please. With the last picture I have uploaded a .zip with the whole file (.cfg, .rof, texture)
I was able load that CFG without error but maybe it's because I didn't use the associated model for it. Where did you upload the zip?
It's easy, I'll upload it here too.
I can open that model no problem, but I can't make the lights brighter, no matter how big of a number I enter for Power and Area!!! Did you have that problem?
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Okwa wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 12:14 pm @Support Don't be surprised that I won't be in touch today. I have to go to the babysitting service. :salute :lol:
No problem, have fun :mrgreen: and thank you :salute
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Support wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 12:14 pm
Okwa wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 12:03 pm
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I was able load that CFG without error but maybe it's because I didn't use the associated model for it. Where did you upload the zip?
It's easy, I'll upload it here too.
I can open that model no problem, but I can't make the lights brighter, no matter how big of a number I enter for Power and Area!!! Did you have that problem?
The shadows were set to "Ambiant" that's why. When I set it to "Real" it's proper, a bit too bright but I set the power to default of 35 and it looked good :salute
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@Support That's right, if Illumination is set to “Ambience”, nothing changes when I change the setting for the light.
But I'm just wondering why it was set to ambience. I can't remember doing that. Or maybe I'm just getting old. :twisted: :shock:

But when the illumination is set to real, MY GOD IT LOOKS GOOD!!!! :excited: :excited: :excited:
Already during the first test, SIMPLY AWESOME. :excited: :excited: :excited:
I just have to correct the textures now. The current setting no longer fits. Then I'll render the scene properly. :salute :salute :salute
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